Rant and Rave 3

[Black King]

WE love you too :xyxthumbs:

 

[Firebird]

Awww, Sam we'll all fly there and kick some ass for you. Farrah can break someone's jaw with her Gucci clutch that weights 50 pounds with all her makeup. :hehe2:

I have to for once rave about something disgusting yet funny. We have this one Attorney, Todd, who is a real loser. He's bi-polar too so he throws irrational fits like night and day. We noticed he goes to the bathroom frequently and he's a big guy (not fat but tall).

Venessa, one of the legal assistants here went to give him a memo when she saw him checking out pictures of naked women (this isn't the first time). So Venessa and Shalandra come over to me because they know I can easily access his computer.

Let me tell you that man is into some kinky shit! LMAO! "Hairy twats", "Stocking fetishes", "Granny jugs". *Shivers* It was nasttttyyyy. So, I bring Shal and Venessa in and they can't help but crack up!

Best part of all he closes his office door, so you know he's greasing the pole. LOL!

 

[Karma]

I hate inconsiderate people. I hate people who take advantage of others. I hate people who rip other peoples lives apart for their own selfish desires. I hate that i've come to this point. And I hate that my entire life is just one giant ball of stress and anxiety.

I fucking hate people in general. So fuck off.

Girl who is it? where they at? :sure:

you need me to cuss someone out for you right quick? :fdevil: because you KNOW i will. just give me the name and number and I'll call their ass right up and call them everything BUT their name.



<< looks at Heather>> "GRANNY JUGS!?" girl what kind of office do you work in? and worse...what kind of MEN do you deal with? :tomato:

 

[Cat-Scratch]

I still love everyone on Screen Gems though. <3

Cause I hate it when I'm told to Fuck Off.

 

[Firebird]

Okay, why is it black people have such a problem with gay people? I have a problem with that when they suffered back in the fifties, sixties and seventies as well. They didn’t have certain liberties themselves.

It started when Shalandrea’s friend forwarded her pictures from Miami, FL. Apparently there were gay and lesbian people there. So the friend took pictures and e-mailed them to Shalandrea, whose black. A lot of the people who were in the pictures were black themselves.

But what pissed me off was what Shalandrea started to say by saying “There is a gay epidemic.” Excuse me? That’s so rude to say, where the hell does she get off? What about all the BLACK people?! Huh? Yeah, there’s an epidemic of them too. I’ve never said anything about black people like that. I’ve had black friends, I listen to a lot of hip-hop music and the like.

I find it really unnerving when a black woman is disrespecting the gay community. I think that’s hypocritical and unnecessary. I can’t respect people like that, that’s bullshit!

Maybe she doesn’t realize but humans evolve with time just like other animals in a kingdom. It happens whether they like it or not.

 

[Karma]

Okay, why is it black people have such a problem with gay people? I have a problem with that when they suffered back in the fifties, sixties and seventies as well. They didn’t have certain liberties themselves.

It started when Shalandrea’s friend forwarded her pictures from Miami, FL. Apparently there were gay and lesbian people there. So the friend took pictures and e-mailed them to Shalandrea, whose black. A lot of the people who were in the pictures were black themselves.

But what pissed me off was what Shalandrea started to say by saying “There is a gay epidemic.” Excuse me? That’s so rude to say, where the hell does she get off? What about all the BLACK people?! Huh? Yeah, there’s an epidemic of them too. I’ve never said anything about black people like that. I’ve had black friends, I listen to a lot of hip-hop music and the like.

I find it really unnerving when a black woman is disrespecting the gay community. I think that’s hypocritical and unnecessary. I can’t respect people like that, that’s bullshit!

Maybe she doesn’t realize but humans evolve with time just like other animals in a kingdom. It happens whether they like it or not.

As someone who is VERY protective of her gay friends, I have had VERY frank discussions with black folks that that i am personally aquainted with [who have made statements about gay people that i objected to], some of whom are gay and some are not, and I too have noticed that within some parts of the black community that i've been involved with that there was this INFLATED disdain or comdemnation toward gay people. even some gay black men that i know will look down on OTHER gay men (of any color) for living their life OPENLY versus trying to be "D/L" or a poser. I TRULY dont get that.

I would ask that woman who said that how would SHE like it if someone made statements like that about black people...but then again, i HAVE countered some of my friends/aquaintences with that and they say things like "I dont have a choice about being black, they have a choice to be gay" which usually starts a WHOLE OTHER argument LOL!

From what i've heard in dialogue that i've had one thing that ALWAYS seems to come up is: the church, another thing especially with the men is "the masculinity factor" and the RESPECT they feel they will/won't get.

 

[Rampage]

There are lots of factors at play with this. The subject even gives me pause to speak of, but here goes.

The church is one BIG thing about homosexuality and Black people. Another is the havoc that has been created by "down low" Black men. The lifestyle alone (down low) is instrumental in highly incrased STD rates, including AIDS, among heterosexuals.

The next is a real hostility to equating the plight of homosexuals with race. You will find that, to a person, African-Americans (myself included) find it insulting to equate or relate the two. The reasons are many, but here are a few.

1) You absolutely cannot help being Black, or White, or Asian. The biological components of homosexuality are questionable at best for many reasons that I will be happy to explain if anyone is truly interested.

2) There is not the history of enslavement, mass murder, discrimination, or dehumanization that comes with race. I am not saying it is a bed of roses, but when you grow up learning the fact that tens of millions of Africans died IN TRANSIT to the West, it pisses you off when homosexuals (or women, for that matter) try to relate because of job discrimination or denial of military service. It is not the same.

Lastly, there is a concern about sexual predation. In fact, this is a BIG concern in Black communities in part due to women's basketball and the furtive nature of "down low" lifestyles, which cause homosexual men to be more4 insistent in terms of figuring out who is who. This very issue (women's basketball and predation) was discussed by ESPN, for example, and many people of all colors have negative experiences with this situation. For every reasonable person I have met and got along with who was homosexual, I have met someone else who was sexually aggressive about their preferences. Now for me that is no big deal, I deal with people on an individual basis. But for others, BIG problem.

In the end the issue is complicated and some of it comes down to plain old prejudice, unfortunately. But some of the hostilities have roots.

 

[Karma]

There are lots of factors at play with this. The subject even gives me pause to speak of, but here goes.

The church is one BIG thing about homosexuality and Black people. Another is the havoc that has been created by "down low" Black men. The lifestyle alone (down low) is instrumental in highly incrased STD rates, including AIDS, among heterosexuals.

The next is a real hostility to equating the plight of homosexuals with race. You will find that, to a person, African-Americans (myself included) find it insulting to equate or relate the two. The reasons are many, but here are a few.

1) You absolutely cannot help being Black, or White, or Asian. The biological components of homosexuality are questionable at best for many reasons that I will be happy to explain if anyone is truly interested.

and that is EXACTLY what i'm talking about that usually will start a whole OTHER argument LOL! are you going to tell me that the american psychological association, among OTHER noted, accredited mental health professionals and experts, not to mention gay people themselves who have admitted to knowing they were "different" since ch ildhood that this is merely a CHOICE!?

2) There is not the history of enslavement, mass murder, discrimination, or dehumanization that comes with race. I am not saying it is a bed of roses, but when you grow up learning the fact that tens of millions of Africans died IN TRANSIT to the West, it pisses you off when homosexuals (or women, for that matter) try to relate because of job discrimination or denial of military service. It is not the same.

are you suggesting that WOMEN as a MINORITY GROUP have not endured n ightmares dating as far back as the medieval/dark ages in europe? (and that's only because HISTORY has documented it that we know THAT much) when it comes to injustice (and it being TOLERATED and ACCEPTED AS THE NORM for DECADES) , i think women CAN relate, and so can gays for that matter. Black people DON'T corner the market on "group persecution"...and really, WHY should ANYONE be RUSHING to claim that distintion? like its a badge of honor? Gay people have been singled out for violence, discrimination etc too...

Lastly, there is a concern about sexual predation. In fact, this is a BIG concern in Black communities in part due to women's basketball and the furtive nature of "down low" lifestyles, which cause homosexual men to be more4 insistent in terms of figuring out who is who. This very issue (women's basketball and predation) was discussed by ESPN, for example, and many people of all colors have negative experiences with this situation. For every reasonable person I have met and got along with who was homosexual, I have met someone else who was sexually aggressive about their preferences. Now for me that is no big deal, I deal with people on an individual basis. But for others, BIG problem.

women's basketball? garrick? are we from the same planet? i think ANOTHER THREAD in the ROUND TABLE is going to be opened VERY soon LOL!

In the end the issue is complicated and some of it comes down to plain old prejudice, unfortunately. But some of the hostilities have roots.

 

[Rampage]

I am aware of the fact that many psychological associations have decided that it is absolutely biological in nature. But there is still a stark lack of evidence. For example:

Every other indicator of gene and/or biologically directed traits can be traced and have a relation with parentage. That is NOT the case with homosexuality. So, the only way you could truly decide it was genetically determined with current evidence is if you decided it was mutation of some sort. because there is no evidence that it is passed by gene. The evidence you currently cite is anecdotal, and that cannot be considered scientific by its very nature, especially when you consider the cource and its possible motivations. Another blow against its genetic roots is the fact that gays do not reproduce. How exactly is the biological information passed if this is the case? Unless we are to believe that it is spontaneously generated or that MANY people carry the gene but manage not to express it outwardly, passing it to progeny. That eventuality would support it being about choice in some way as well.

I don't think it is "merely" a choice. I think that it is a combination of factors both nature and nurture. I am not prepared to accept it as a genetic certainty by any means, given the current information and the realities of how genes are passed from generation to generation.

And women HAVE tolerated nightmares in terms of injustice and mistreatment. But even women who were persecuted could OWN Blacks. BIG difference.

Were women murdered for looking at someone? NO. Hung for being literate? NO (in fact, women were often encouraged to uphold literacy and the arts, even if the reasons were condescending). Murdered in passage and packed in vessels as chattel? NO. You THINK you can relate, but when you get stopped ang frisked without cause for being a woman by the police, then speak with me about the plight being the same. Blacks were being murdered for HOPING to vote when women already had won suffrage.

And for the record, in women's basketball, there has been new issues concerning lesbians on the team and the nature of how to deal with it, from coaches hostile to gay athletes (bad) to coaches and players who have preyed upon young women who previously were straight (also bad). Sheryl Swoopes anyone?

 

[Firebird]

I would ask that woman who said that how would SHE like it if someone made statements like that about black people...but then again, i HAVE countered some of my friends/aquaintences with that and they say things like "I dont have a choice about being black, they have a choice to be gay" which usually starts a WHOLE OTHER argument LOL!

Honestly, I was so disgusted that an African American would say such a remark. But to make matters she's a WOMAN! Not only did she have to deal with judgements and discrimmination for the color of her skin but the nature of her sex as well. Which is why I was so dumbfounded by such an ignorant remark.

You absolutely cannot help being Black, or White, or Asian. The biological components of homosexuality are questionable at best for many reasons that I will be happy to explain if anyone is truly interested.

I GET that its extremely difficult being any of those races. The fact that African Americans, Asians, etc. are judged just by the color of their skin. But to some degree you can look at a gay male whose feminine (a queen) and automatically KNOW he's gay. Whether its his high-pitched voice, the feminine mannerisms, or the type of clothing he wears. I'm not saying they are identical but they are similar. Not everyone can be identified by their sexual preference, some can be discreet about it.

There is not the history of enslavement, mass murder, discrimination, or dehumanization that comes with race. I am not saying it is a bed of roses, but when you grow up learning the fact that tens of millions of Africans died IN TRANSIT to the West, it pisses you off when homosexuals (or women, for that matter) try to relate because of job discrimination or denial of military service. It is not the same.

In many cultures, gay and lesbian people are frequently subject to prejudice and discrimination. Like many other minority groups that are the objects of prejudice, they are also subject to stereotyping. Gay men are seen as effeminate and fashionable, often identified with a lisp or a female-like tone and lilt. They are stereotyped as being promiscuous and unsuccessful in developing enduring romantic relationships[citation needed], despite research to the contrary. Gay men are also often alleged as having pedophiliac tendencies and more likely to commit child sexual abuse than the heterosexual male population, a view rejected by mainstream psychiatric groups and contradicted by research. Lesbians are seen as butch, and sometimes "man-haters" or radical feminists.

Homosexuality has at times been used as a scapegoat by governments facing problems. For example, during the early 14th century, accusations of homosexual behavior were instrumental in disbanding the Knights Templar under Philip IV of France, who profited greatly from confiscating the Templars' wealth. In the 20th century, Nazi Germany's persecution of homosexual people was based on the proposition that they posed a threat to "normal" masculinity as well as a risk of contamination to the "Aryan race".

In the 1950s, at the height of the Red Scare in the United States, hundreds of federal and state employees were fired because of their homosexuality in the so-called Lavender Scare. (Ironically, politicians opposed to the scare tactics of McCarthyism tried to discredit Senator Joseph McCarthy by hinting during a televised Congressional committee meeting that McCarthy's top aide, Roy Cohn, was homosexual, as he in fact was.)

A recent instance of scapegoating is the burning of 6,000 books of homoerotic poetry of 8th c. Persian-Arab poet Abu Nuwas by the Egyptian Ministry of Culture in January 2001, to placate Islamic fundamentalists.

In the United States, the FBI reported that 15.6% of hate crimes reported to police in 2004 were founded on perceived sexual orientation. 61% of these attacks were against gay men, 14% against lesbians, 2% against heterosexuals and 1% against bisexuals, while attacks against GLBT people at large made up 20%. Violence based on perceived gender identity was not recorded in the report.

In the United States, the FBI reported that for 2006, hate crimes against gays increased to 16%, from 14% in 2005, as percentages of total documented hate crimes across the US. The 2006 annual report, released on November 19, 2007, also said that hate crimes based on sexual orientation are the third most common type, behind race and religion.

Every other indicator of gene and/or biologically directed traits can be traced and have a relation with parentage. That is NOT the case with homosexuality. So, the only way you could truly decide it was genetically determined with current evidence is if you decided it was mutation of some sort. because there is no evidence that it is passed by gene. The evidence you currently cite is anecdotal, and that cannot be considered scientific by its very nature, especially when you consider the cource and its possible motivations. Another blow against its genetic roots is the fact that gays do not reproduce. How exactly is the biological information passed if this is the case? Unless we are to believe that it is spontaneously generated or that MANY people carry the gene but manage not to express it outwardly, passing it to progeny. That eventuality would support it being about choice in some way as well.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has stated that "sexual orientation probably is not determined by any one factor but by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences. There are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people. It also stated that for most people, sexual orientation is determined at an early age. To date there are no replicated scientific studies supporting any specific biological etiology for homosexuality. Similarly, no specific psychosocial or family dynamic cause for homosexuality has been identified, including histories of childhood sexual abuse."

Research into how sexual orientation may be determined by genetic or other prenatal factors plays a role in political and social debates about homosexuality, and also raises fears about genetic profiling and prenatal testing.

 

[Rampage]

So far, I think your citations bear out what I was saying. Hate crimes based on sexual orientation are third behind race and religion. I would argue that some of those religious hate crimes were against Jews, which could be counted either as race or religion in truth.

Similarly, the situations you cite about discrimination against homosexuals, while no picnic, do not involve mass genocide or the conversion of humans into chattel or the spread of "scientific" evidence to prove subhumanity.

In addition, the scientific evidence you cite also puts us on the same page. I happen to believe that we exist on a continuum in terms of sexual orientation and that is where nurture, environment, and choice play a part. I do not believe it is purely a choice. I similarly do not believe it is simply biological.

As for the negative stereotypes, I understand fully that the evidence shows that they are false. I think that part of that issue is the media coverage of people on the fringe in terms of homosexuals. There are no role models of homosexual normalcy that can reinforce for ignorant mainstream Americans positive aspects of homosexuals. THAT is one thing that Blacks and gays share, lol.

 

[Persephone]

I hate drunks. And alocholics...and anyone who throws their lives away just to tip back some more booze. It's such a waste.

 

[Clara Oswald]

Comcast customer service is a joke. I emailed them for support because they are blocking an IP address. I got a canned text response that didn't apply to my situation and offered NO HELP for the actual problem. It was clear that the "customer service representative" had not even bother to READ my email. What BS. If it isn't SUPPORT don't bill it as such on your frickin website. And if you're going to send out a form letter, at least have someone whose first language is ENGLISH read it over for the correct grammar. FFS.

 

[Karma]

I hate workplace "culture". I really hate fake and phony ppl. & I DESPITE clueless, unobservant "management" that lets things get out of hand & then when they step in, it's based on misinformation & it's ALWAYS too little...too late

 

[Tribute]

I hate workplace "culture". I really hate fake and phony ppl. & I DESPITE clueless, unobservant "management" that lets things get out of hand & then when they step in, it's based on misinformation & it's ALWAYS too little...too late

Dealing with a lot of this right now so I totally agree!!! It's needlessly exhausting.

 

[SiD]

Dealing with people who don't want to actually do anything constructive, just wait & slack until a few dedicated people have finished the work. UGH

Also people who will bitch and moan behind your back, but won't say a thing to your face, be it constructive or not.

Sometimes i just want to high five them all, in the face, with a baseball bat.

 

[Screen Legend]

I've been feeling pretty hormonal yesterday and today and it pisses me off!! UGH!!

 

[Karma]

I really can't stand "people" by & large.

Whether its at work, or just out and about, ppl just don't know how to act and if you "DARE" to express your displeasure with someone's inexplicable rudeness or bad behavior, YOU'RE the one w/ the problem!? << FAMILY FEUD BUZZER>>

Between events at my job from yesterday & today...I am pissed off!

I'm glad that I'm back to my regular working hours b/c the less time i have to spend w/ these two faced losers, the better!

How do ppl live w/ themselves, behaving like this!?

I suppose I'll never know & I know I'm not the first to ask that question so....

 

[Screen Legend]

My mom does not get my thought process at all. Okay, so my brother and I have to bring pies to our family Christmas on my mom's side tomorrow and she ordered them from this really expensive gourmet food store.

So then I told her that I wanted to buy the pies and she's like, you WILL be buying the epies you would just pay ME back and I was like, no, *I* wanted to buy the pies and she got mad at ME because I want to buy them MYSELF.

Here's the my point: I'm forever paying people her back for one thing or another. I'm tired of paying people her back.

I don't give a damn if I'd be buying them regardless of this and that. I REFUSE to pay somebody else to buy them when they don't have to. Just because I'm unemployed does not mean I'm destitute.

/rantover

 

[Rampage]

My mom does not get my thought process at all. Okay, so my brother and I have to bring pies to our family Christmas on my mom's side tomorrow and she ordered them from this really expensive gourmet food store.

So then I told her that I wanted to buy the pies and she's like, you WILL be buying the epies you would just pay ME back and I was like, no, *I* wanted to buy the pies and she got mad at ME because I want to buy them MYSELF.

Here's the my point: I'm forever paying people her back for one thing or another. I'm tired of paying people her back.

I don't give a damn if I'd be buying them regardless of this and that. I REFUSE to pay somebody else to buy them when they don't have to. Just because I'm unemployed does not mean I'm destitute.

/rantover

I understand COMPLETELY and I have had this conversation with my own mother. The real coup would be to look up a recipe and (very cheaply) bake a very nice pie to take in addition to what she ordered.

I can provide recipe(s) if you would like to try that.