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AMEN! :nod:
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AMEN! :nod:
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I was BLOWN AWAY when i read someone's "fashion analysis" that Marilyn Monroe & Elizabeth Montgomery (Bewitched, etc) were considered PLUS SIZED by today's standards 
REALLY!?
meanwhile...some skinny, hacked up, skeleton w/ make up & extensions like Heidi Montag is considered "HOT"? even Victoria "Posh Spice" Beckham...when she was w/ the Spice Girls initially, she ROCKED those gucci mini dresses. She was curvy but STILL small...then all of a sudden she started looking like a walking skeleton. it was almost PAINFUL to look @ her whenever she wore anything off the shoulder or backless. her shoulder blades look like deadly weapons!
REALLY!?meanwhile...some skinny, hacked up, skeleton w/ make up & extensions like Heidi Montag is considered "HOT"? even Victoria "Posh Spice" Beckham...when she was w/ the Spice Girls initially, she ROCKED those gucci mini dresses. She was curvy but STILL small...then all of a sudden she started looking like a walking skeleton. it was almost PAINFUL to look @ her whenever she wore anything off the shoulder or backless. her shoulder blades look like deadly weapons!
It's not healthy, for anyone, the body ideals is screwed for both men and women, im glad that it looks like things are changing (from my POV) and that a more healthy ideals is being embraced, especially those who have the powers to influence others.
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ill admit, i briefly had an issue w/ this several years ago. i was no longer a size 4 but instead a size 7 (@ 5'6') & i actually thought I was FAT i've gotten over that. I'm between a 6 or 7 now & I love it. I know I'm not fat. I am still picky about what I eat but its more for health than vanity.
i've gotten over that. I'm between a 6 or 7 now & I love it. I know I'm not fat. I am still picky about what I eat but its more for health than vanity.
Rampage
I am a fucking god.
The crazy part is that a LOT of this had to do with the laziness of many fashion designers. Designing clothes that curvy beauties can wear is hard; designing clothing for stick figures is easier.
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It's amazing how much pressure the fashion world and the entertainment world can place on women physically. More and more women are getting thinner and thinner to the point where they resemble a skeleton, and some are being praised as beautiful or gorgeous.
When I watched the Victoria Secret fashion show in 2011 I was disgusted by the new 'Angel' they had chosen. She wasn't voluptuous like the other angels. She was so thin you could see her thigh bone when she walked down the runway! I was so appalled by this choice and I wasn't the only one.
There are even pictures of LeAnn Rimes in a bikini, and she looks like skin and bones! How is that even remotely sexy? I certainly wouldn't want to date a woman who was 'stick thin.' Gross!
I can't believe today's society on how they view a woman's body and size measurement. Women are beautiful no matter what size they are (with the exception of skeletons lol). Fashion industries need to wake up!
When I watched the Victoria Secret fashion show in 2011 I was disgusted by the new 'Angel' they had chosen. She wasn't voluptuous like the other angels. She was so thin you could see her thigh bone when she walked down the runway! I was so appalled by this choice and I wasn't the only one.
There are even pictures of LeAnn Rimes in a bikini, and she looks like skin and bones! How is that even remotely sexy? I certainly wouldn't want to date a woman who was 'stick thin.' Gross!
I can't believe today's society on how they view a woman's body and size measurement. Women are beautiful no matter what size they are (with the exception of skeletons lol). Fashion industries need to wake up!
The other day I saw this thing about a campaign a plus size model is doing for a modeling mag where they show her in pictures with a "regular" model so you can see the size difference.
Oh, here's the campaign here: PLUS Model Magazine: January 2012 Issue Plus Size Featuring Kasia from ANTM Cycle 16
*Note: She is nude in the pictures, but her lady parts are strategically covered
And here's some text from the article:
By Editor-in-Chief, Madeline Figueroa-Jones
In the January 2012 issue of PLUS Model Magazine, plus-size model Katya Zharkova is featured in an explosive editorial where thought provoking statistics and statements are revealed.
- Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today, she weighs 23% less.
- Ten years ago plus-size models averaged between size 12 and 18. Today the need for size diversity within the plus-size modeling industry continues to be questioned. The majority of plus-size models on agency boards are between a size 6 and 14, while the customers continue to express their dissatisfaction.
- Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.
- 50% of women wear a size 14 or larger, but most standard clothing outlets cater to sizes 14 or smaller.
If we continue to ignore and rely on others to decide what we want to see, change will never happen. We have to be vocal and proactive, patient and realistic.
Tips on how we can help create change:
- Support the companies who market to you.
- Use social networking sites and email to let brands and designers know how you feel about clothing, options and the use of straight sized models (thin models) to market to you.
- Your dollars count! If you stop buying at “Store A” and let them know you will not be purchasing clothing until they market to you, this will raise concern.
- Use every avenue and opportunity you have available to you for your voice to be heard.
- Indie designers need our support.
The answer to the question is this, there is nothing wrong with our bodies. We are bombarded with weight-loss ads every single day, multiple times a day because it’s a multi-billion dollar industry that preys on the fear of being fat. Not everyone is meant to be skinny, our bodies are beautiful and we are not talking about health here because not every skinny person is healthy.
What we desire is equality to shop and have fashion options just like smaller women. Small women cannot be marketed to with pictures of plus-size women, why are we expected to respond to pictures of small size 6 and 8 women? We don’t!When the plus size modeling industry began, the models ranged in size from 14 to 18/20, and as customers we long for those days when we identify with the models and feel happy about shopping.
Plus Size Bodies, What Is Wrong With Them Anyway? | PLUS Model Magazine [The Pulse of Plus Size Fashion, Beauty, Arts and Plus Size Models]
I do have to mention that I was a little shocked when I got the Talbot's catalog a few months ago and there were plus sized models included on some of the pages.
Oh, here's the campaign here: PLUS Model Magazine: January 2012 Issue Plus Size Featuring Kasia from ANTM Cycle 16
*Note: She is nude in the pictures, but her lady parts are strategically covered
And here's some text from the article:
By Editor-in-Chief, Madeline Figueroa-Jones
In the January 2012 issue of PLUS Model Magazine, plus-size model Katya Zharkova is featured in an explosive editorial where thought provoking statistics and statements are revealed.
- Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today, she weighs 23% less.
- Ten years ago plus-size models averaged between size 12 and 18. Today the need for size diversity within the plus-size modeling industry continues to be questioned. The majority of plus-size models on agency boards are between a size 6 and 14, while the customers continue to express their dissatisfaction.
- Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.
- 50% of women wear a size 14 or larger, but most standard clothing outlets cater to sizes 14 or smaller.
If we continue to ignore and rely on others to decide what we want to see, change will never happen. We have to be vocal and proactive, patient and realistic.
Tips on how we can help create change:
- Support the companies who market to you.
- Use social networking sites and email to let brands and designers know how you feel about clothing, options and the use of straight sized models (thin models) to market to you.
- Your dollars count! If you stop buying at “Store A” and let them know you will not be purchasing clothing until they market to you, this will raise concern.
- Use every avenue and opportunity you have available to you for your voice to be heard.
- Indie designers need our support.
The answer to the question is this, there is nothing wrong with our bodies. We are bombarded with weight-loss ads every single day, multiple times a day because it’s a multi-billion dollar industry that preys on the fear of being fat. Not everyone is meant to be skinny, our bodies are beautiful and we are not talking about health here because not every skinny person is healthy.
What we desire is equality to shop and have fashion options just like smaller women. Small women cannot be marketed to with pictures of plus-size women, why are we expected to respond to pictures of small size 6 and 8 women? We don’t!When the plus size modeling industry began, the models ranged in size from 14 to 18/20, and as customers we long for those days when we identify with the models and feel happy about shopping.
Plus Size Bodies, What Is Wrong With Them Anyway? | PLUS Model Magazine [The Pulse of Plus Size Fashion, Beauty, Arts and Plus Size Models]
I do have to mention that I was a little shocked when I got the Talbot's catalog a few months ago and there were plus sized models included on some of the pages.
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did i read that right when it mentioned size 6 as PLUS SIZED!?
there's definitely a detachment from REALITY when it comes to "definition" of plus sized & what is "average" these days. Europe is actively trying to buck this trend but of course not so in America.
there's definitely a detachment from REALITY when it comes to "definition" of plus sized & what is "average" these days. Europe is actively trying to buck this trend but of course not so in America.
I'm going to be honest and say when I was looking at the catalog, I didn't think the clothes looked as good on the plus size model. Which is probably a perception thing rather than reality.
Rampage
I am a fucking god.
Honestly it probably wasn't CF. Plus-sized models tend to have additional...curves. Designers seem to have forgotten how to design clothing that flatters those curves, instead making voluptuous women look like sausage rolls in straight sheaths.
One crazy example of the thin phenomenon is my first cousin's half-sister. She is absolutely GORGEOUS. And I do mean gorgeous, like draw-a-crowd-of-men-when-she-goes-places gorgeous. She also played varsity sports like her brothers and sisters so she is very fit. But she now models and I did a double-take when I saw her page describe her as plus-sized. She is curvy, but full-figured (the codeword in my mind for fat) she is not. But she is according to the industry and now this pretty just turned-18-year-old HAS to market herself in that way.
One crazy example of the thin phenomenon is my first cousin's half-sister. She is absolutely GORGEOUS. And I do mean gorgeous, like draw-a-crowd-of-men-when-she-goes-places gorgeous. She also played varsity sports like her brothers and sisters so she is very fit. But she now models and I did a double-take when I saw her page describe her as plus-sized. She is curvy, but full-figured (the codeword in my mind for fat) she is not. But she is according to the industry and now this pretty just turned-18-year-old HAS to market herself in that way.